Would Tyson be remembered as an all time great if he retired before he fought Buster Douglass?

Certainly NOT. That would be like ALI retiring without fighting Norton, Forman or Frazier because he fought Sonny Liston. Ali was past his prime when he met each of them DURING their primes and he still boasts a better Win-Loss record against them.





Tyson would have to fight the best of his generation. If he retires before Douglas, who do you have? Spinks? True, Tyson did beat some useful heavyweights but there were still some he avoided. He never fought Tim Witherspoon, who was still useful at that time. He also CLEARLY avoided Oliver McCall. I saw them spar live and I can see why Team Tyson politely asked Olive to leave.





The Top 4 heavyweights of the era are Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson and Bowe. Lewis and Holyfield answered the call of combat. Bowe missed 2 out of three, running from Lennox and never having the chance to fight Tyson. Tyson is 0-3 against Lennox and Holyfield.





Had he never fought these fighters, he MIGHT be viewed in a brighter light. However, unless Holyfield and Lewis are somehow NOT around, I can't see giving Tyson much credit in comparison to the other greats.





If Liston and Patterson had come a few years earlier, I'm sure Rocky Marciano would have faced them. Some have accused him of ducking Liston, who was closer to Rocky's age than reported, but Rocky can't be blamed for that. He would have had to wait around another 3 years at least, to fight Sonny. With his management problems one can't blame him for getting out.





Wanna call Tyson great? You have to exclude Lewis and Holyfield from history. Unless you have a time machine, that's not possible to do.





Tyson is good. He's even in the Top 12 if you consider IN THE RING greatness. But he's NOT in the upper echelon.




Thumbs up to Norman Bates, quality of competition & longlivity play significant roles in a historical legacy. The answer to your question is "no". Mike would no more be remembered as an all time great than Ike Ibeabuchi will be remembered as an all time great. Ike had a great start to his professional career, but circumstances ended it prematurely. Some consider Ike an extremely talented and hard punching heavyweight, but few would consider him an "all time great".





The same would have held true for Mike Tyson had Tyson's career ended before he faced a top contender. As it stands, both Mike and Ike were plenty good (pun intended), but neither will ever be considered "Great" in the classic sense. The both had the talent to dominate their era's but failed to do so against the elite of the day. Historical greatness takes into account the manner in which a champion conducts himself outside the ring as well as who and how he fought in the ring, and with all due respect, there is a great deal of negative controversy that tarnished both fighters legacy's. Tyson retiring unbeaten prior to Douglas wouldn't have changed much by way of how Mike will be remembered.




To be considered an All-Time great you have display longevity. One thing people forget about Mike Tyson is that his prime was only about 3 years. Anywhere from 87 to 90 defending his title about 9 times.





IF he retired before the Douglas fight that means no show down with Lewis or Holyfield. Even though Mike lost those fights he still gets credit for taking those risks. IF he retired without fighting either one of those guys NO he wouldn't be considered great. I don't really consider Mike great now. He was a good fighter in his prime but not Great because didn't have longevity that some of Boxings great champs have.




Tyson went to jail, at about the time of the most competitive points in heavyweight history...only paralleled by the fights in the 1970s.





Now before anyone goes nuts and disputes that, keep in mind I am not talking about skill levels. I am talking about the belt being passed around from hand to hand because of the LEVEL of competition. Think of the boxers that Mike missed out on..and likely would have never fought, during this highly competitive period.





Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield, Michael Moorer, Tommy Morrison (Yeah I know but he was there), Razor Ruddock, George Foreman, John Ruiz (yeah I know again, he was there). Like it or not...the 1990s were the last hot craze the heavyweights ever knew. This is only a few of the names that were there, not including some of the just out and out wild names that jumped into the heavyweight division thta made it great and fun to watch.





And Tyson spent the entire era that he should have been champ, in a jail cell.





Had he fought and beaten all of these people, he would have been a name to put in the hall of fame ABOVE ALL OTHERS....the loss to Buster Douglas would have been overlooked.





But he wasnt even there. Almost every name mentioned...almost...are going to be hall of famers.





And because he would have no part of them, or lost to his stiffest competition, he wont. He was a flash in the pan that when truly was tested, folded. He never rose to his challenges.




"I must add my viewpoint regarding Mike Tyson's greatness......for those who regard him as such... Whether it be his greatness, infamy or any other description that he may be labelled with, Mike remains to be the youngest fighter ever to win a World Heavyweight Championship!!..


His speed and power as a shorter heavy-weight during his era, is what made him a phenom, regardless of who he did and didn't fight. And while I was never one of his biggest fans, like me..you gotta give credit when credit is due..You can't fault him for never fighting the best during his era..We all show up on this planet when we do and just go from there... Just a reminder to those of you who continue question all the dream fights that will never materialize like those of "Roy Jones".. or Osac De La Hoya...(after his/their respective primes)...


So in conclusion, while Mike Tyson may never reach "All Time Greatness" in the minds of many including myself .....he will still be remembered for a long time to come.. That's why people still compare and talk about him today.




Lets look at it this way before Cus died Mike Tyson was a great fighter and before he went to jail he was a great fighter the youngest heavey weight champion in the history of the sport. Mike Tyson will always be rememberedas a great fighter




No, because he NEVER did beat a top prime heavyweight. You don't become an all-timer by beating up cab drivers and interior decorators.




Absolutely Yes.. He will still be remembered as one of the all time great. IMO nobody has ever dominated the ring like Tyson in his prime.




i think yes because he is the youngest heavyweight champion and the first to unify the major titles in heavyweight division

How to set up punches to the body?

Before in a sparring match with a friend, when I try to jab or right straight to the body I get countered easily with a hook to the head or a straight right to my head. How should I set up body shots? Faint to the head?



you can jab at the head and move in as you punch then go to the body. btw you are only gonna learn how to do this and the other aspects of boxing if you get a boxing trainer. so go to a boxing gym and sign up if you wanna learn




You have to distract the opponent by attacking his face/head, thus making him cover it (and if untrained, probably cover his eyes and go off balance), then the body is all yours. You can even rotate. Head, body, head, body, and so on. Tyson had the best combination ever for this kind of thing. Jab to head, (switch to southpaw), right hook to body, right hook to head/right uppercut, (switch back to orthodox), left hook to head.




yea its easier to hook the body..but step into the jab and get low if your gonna jab or straight the body bro




jabs to the head. or even jab cross then body shot

Vitali tsypko vs. librado andrade. predictions?

co main event for bradley - holt. i want tsypko to win but i have feeling, of andrade to win on ud



don't you hate it when nobody answers a question you asked?

Tyson v Ali who would win?

Would Tyson in his prime have beaten Ali in his prime?



A prime Tyson would probably demolish Ali, if he managed to get inside of Ali's jab and cheap bouncing act. Ali was very over-rated, and any boxing historian with a brain in their head would admit that. All he was good at as running around in circles around his opponents and using his supreme reach to jab/push them away, which is rather cheap and unexciting (as it takes no real skill to run away from someone in the ring and push them away with the reach you were born with, while in addition getting away with it being called exciting). If a prime Tyson got inside of Ali's cheap and boring run-and-jab "defenses", he'd KO him in a maximum of probably three seconds. It would probably be really easy for Tyson to do this, as his style revolved entirely around fighting taller opponents.





In addition to that, Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick defeated Muhammad Ali, and Mike Tyson mopped the floor with both Holmes and Berbick in his career, but to be fair, the argument could be made that Muhammad Ali was not in his prime, and Berbick and Holmes (being taller and different than Tyson) certainly used a different style and method of fighting against Ali than Tyson would have, which would add to technical complications. It certainly wouldn't be a very entertaining or exciting fight to watch, because all Ali would do is cheaply bounce around the ring, pushing Tyson away from him for as long as he could while not giving fans any action, but if Tyson got inside he would kill Ali.




There are a lot of people who wonder this. In my opinion Ali would have KO'd Tyson. Ali could have withstood Tysons power punches and I belive he would have won in the later rounds. Wish we could have seen it.




Tyson never had a prime. He lost every single time he fought a prime top heavyweight.




Ali took George Foremans punches and in my opinion George hits harder than tyson. So i would go with Ali on points or by late stoppage.




Ali




Not another of these questions.....




tyson by knock out

Apart from ricky hatton?

apart from ricky hatton , who are the next best 3 light-welterweights in uk and ireland .



1. junior witter


2. ricky hattons nan


3. ricky hattons dog




junior witter (former wbc champion)


ajose olusegun (commomwealth champ, and former african boxing union champion)


gavin rees (former wba champion, but hasn't fought in a year since losing the title)




Junior Witter


Bradley Saunders


Dean Byrne

Has there ever been a father son boxing match?

In boxing history has there ever been a father verses son boxing match, or a brother against brother, cousin against cousin? If so, name it please.



if u believe what dude just said above then i got a bridge in brooklyn i wanna sell u. and i got oceanview property in Idaho i wanna sell u too! wheres ur proof lmao. come on man thats trash! and somebody gave him a thumbs up?




theres been several UN-SANCTIONED bouts.... zab judah vs his father yoel. de la hoya vs. his father joel. floyd jr. vs floyd sr.




No.but it would be good if the klitckos fought each other.

Who

My favorite all time boxer was Marvelous Marvin Hagler! Who is yours?



sugar ray robinson





bar none. the best p4p




I am a huge fan of muhammad ali and marvin hagler those guys could really put up a show in the ring but my favorite would have to be tyson. I know some people think he is overrated and some greatly underrate him but no one can say that his fights were not exciting. there was always that anticipation for a knock out and his aggressive style always kept you on the edge of your sit, with mike you KNEW that there would never be a boring fight, i think his style was a huge reason why boxing was popular back then and i think the heavyweight division today could use that kind of fighter.




jimmy thunder!!! had a title shot took a tuneup fight and faceplanted the canvas.cruiserweight got him.never seen him again, but man he event took the kc boy in like 11 secs of the first round. that guy beat mike tyson.he said im coming out with all i got, and he did only jimmy thunder returned with i wasnna say right and the kiss goodnight, wow!




Julio Cesar Chavez by far





other faves: juan manuel marquez, floyd mayweather and juan manuel lopez... antonio margarito was on my list until he got caught cheating >:(




tyson. gatti. emanuel agustus (burton). johnny tapia. micky ward. and a little known club fighter outta philly named rogers mtagwa.




I have a few julio cesar chavez, erik morales, and mike tyson




Ali.





Honorable mention: Mike Tyson and Roberto Duran




dannyboy is my favorite boxer of all time




Julio Cesar Chavez and Juan Manuel Marquez and Salvador sanchez




i really dont have a favorite boxer but my math teacher is westler




I like rocky marciano and muhammad ali...and mike tyson.




haglar




i liked Rocky Marciano he was a great fighter




oscra de la olla and miguel cotto!!!!




i like watching some old henry armstrong stuff

(spanish project)julio cesar chavez?

im doing a spanish project on him and if anyone knows..3 things he needs...2 things he doesnt like.... or his nickname that would be great.



Julios nickname was The Lion of Culiacan. Culiacan was his hometown, but he was usually introduced as El Gran Campeon Mexicano. That he was.





Three things he needs: Money; respect; and fame. Two things he doesnt like: Criticism and criticism of his son, Julio, Jr.





Like so many great fighters, Julio fought too long, which diminished his reputation and his fortune. But theres no question that he was one of the greatest fighters who ever put on the gloves. He was all but invincible. Many people say he lost the Meldrick Taylor fight, and I agree he was behind on the scorecards. But he knocked Taylor out with two seconds to go in the 12th and final round. It was a 12-round fight, not an 11-round-58 second fight. Taylor took a severe beating and was never the same.





We often tend to judge fighters based on their last few fights. But if we judge Julio on his best fights, he was certainly one of the very best of all time. People still talk about Hector Camacho, but Julio beat the hell out of him. If Hector hasnt run, he would have been knocked out.




i assume you mean chavez sr.





he had the following nick names





the lion of culiacan


the pride of culican


j c superstar


el gran campion





he doesn't like losing, he was a model champion 'till he started to struggle, then the excuses came thick and fast, reminding me of john belushi in the blues brothers (the "it's not my fault" piece) and he didn't like disrespect, so if an opponent bad mouthed him, he would do the same.




his nickname was the lion of culiacan,he doesnt like people picking his opponents and he doesnt like people rushing him,he needs to get ready to step in the ring he also needs no hype.




first Mexican boxer to become a champion in 3 different weight classes, held 6 world championships, and went 90 fights undefeated before losing his first fight to Frankie Randall




he needs money, he needs to be around boxing, and he needs to apologize and admit defeat to Meldrick Taylor.


Just my opinion




google his name also wikipedia you can find lots of info about julio




The Lion of Culiacan was his nickname




I know one thing he didn't like Smooth Boxers.(LOL)

Why are they call videos?

Because that's what they are videos! This web pages ask for my money and what they have are videos not boxing fights!! You click on a "fight" and what you get is a video of the two fighters being weighted this is a rip off comrades don't let (www.tvcram.com/forums) or any other thieves take the money from you........................GOD BLESS AMERICA!!



Sometimes I touch myself late at night.

Are finger and finger-tip push-ups good for you?

Is it good to do push-ups on your;


1. fingers (straight fingers, palms parallel to the ground, finger prints on ground.)?


2. finger-tips? (same as above but with but with fingers making 90 degree andles so that the finger tips are on the ground.)



if you want to play with your self better




..........

How do I stop hyper extending my elbow when I jab/right cross?

Every time I go to jab/right cross, I hyper extend my elbow. Is there anything I can do to prevent this, and jab/right cross normally?





Thanks in advance.



Break down the jabbing/crossing movements into slow motion to practice the proper form. Then as you learn the so-called "muscle memory", do it a little faster, keeping good form. Keep it up until you reach punching speed again.




You want to snap out your punches not reach as far as you can, make suer when you are hitting the bag or doing mitt training to not be on the limit of your reach, that is how a lot of guys end up with elbow problems from snapping their punches at the limit of their reach.




When you jab and right cross, you don't have to pull your arm back. Keep your arm loose and just Throw it away. Your arm will automatically come back. if you keep your arms loose there should be no problems.




Follow through with your punch. Put some weight into it.

Celebrity Fight, Mario Lopez vs. Mark Wahlberg?

Who'd Win?



I'd go with the street punk over the gay guy.




mario lopez has big muscles




Mario. He had the best muscles.

Why do boxers seem to grab at their nose before fighting or during a fight?

They always touch their nose or grab at it while guarding their face. This isn't to poke fun at boxers, I just want to know why many boxers have this habit.



There is a very legitmate reason behind what appears to be boxers touching or grabbing their face(s)... If you ever started boxing at a entry-level phase...so-to-speak, you may have been taught defensive postures or stances or perhaps how to move foward, backwards or even laterally, etc..And then there are some people who learn how to jab first because the jab is one if not thee, most important punch in boxing.. In any of these events though, you are most certainly taught how and wear to hold you hands, arms, guards, or what-have you..


Well in that particular instance, you should be well understood about how important it is to keep you hands at "EYE-LEVEL". And as the rounds progress,you will eventually, subconsciously lower your hands to "CHIN-LEVEL, which is still good yet somewhat risky...So if you haven't already figured it out, ultimately the touching of the nose or side of the face, is an "Old-school" reminder of where you hand should be..


I.E.. If you are left-handed, your left hand should be next to if not touching the left side of your face while you right-hand or (jab-hand) is in front of you, working defensively and of course aggressively.. Vice-versa for the Right-hand or Right-handers...


You can observe "Mohammedl Ali" doing this all the time but he is one of the few people who kept his hands low without getting hit too much, like Ray Robinson and Roy Jones...IN THEIR PRIMES!...





I hope this answers your question?..Good luck!..




The same reason basketball players blow in there fist when they come into a game just Habit it serves no purpose a boxers hands are always in his face so he just touches his nose from time to time




they're trying to clear the mucus or blood out their nose, if they cant breathe right out their nose then breathing out their mouths will make them tired faster

Lifting weights for boxing?

is it good to do weights on your back and legs for boxing .will it help your balance



Yes, you should lift everything. Back will add to your punches and legs will assist with balance and even punch power too.


Usually you use your legs to get some extra "pop" on your punches. It will all help and even if it doesnt, it will not hurt.




Flexibility is more important in boxing than muscle. Swimming is better than lifting weights, although light weights are okay.




Yup for those uppercuts.





but it's a lot more important to work on your flexibility, back muscles, and abs (sides and front)




i dont lift weight at all and i still punch harder than kasta zoo!





all my devastating power comes from my testicles.




yes, squats will help you duck. and deadlifts should give you supreme lower back strength.




No it will make you stiff just stretch alot and lift LIGHT weight




yeah, you need your legs strong.

Can roman gonzalez become greater than ricardo lopez?

minimum weights



Maybe, the way he is going to be better is by moving up, Lopez avoided Mark Johnson and stayed at his weight but the only way Gonzalez is going to exceed Lopez's greatness is by moving up and taking on new challenges.





Personally he is one of my favorite active fighters to watch nowadays, he is reminiscent of Alexis Arguello.




No, Lopez was very technical, had power on both hands and stamina in bunches. He threw punches from all angles and directions.





Chocolate is limited

Who your favorite current puerto rican boxers?

i like daniel santos an ivan calderon..



I have trouble really liking Daniel Santos, he is too hot and cold for my taste. Ivan Calderon is fun too watch just because he is so skilled but my favorite right now is JuanMa, he could be really something special.





My favorite of all time is a tie between Carlos Ortiz and Wilfredo Gomez.




Miguel Cotto and then Juanma Lopez





Gomez was the best puerto rican ever.




Miguel Cotto


Ivan Calderon


and Juanma Lopez




1-Cotto


2-Lopez




Tito Trinidad... the greatest ever!




Miguel Cotto

What are some underrated fights?

o'neil bell vs jean marc mormeck I an II come to mind...



Danny "Little Red" Lopez vs Mike Ayala was a really exciting fight, but the fight I would reccomend to anyone who wants some action is Roger Mtagwa vs Tomas Villa, I have been repeating this over and over but it really was a great fight.





Mike Mollo vs Andrew Golata was pretty entertaining as well.




HUMBERTO SOTO vs pacquioa

A Boxer in need of help?

i have been boxing for 3 months, i am 5,2 107 lbs. I'm built for speed and have very good conditioning, running 2.5 miles a day. I like to be a presser someone flowing them in there tracks the hole time, I need to know what can i do to be a better BOXER not just a good faster puncher. Can you help me?



If I understand your question fully, you want to be a better boxer..... as in boxer-puncher, vice brawler-slugger?..


Well assuming that you practice good physical conditioning for that of a boxer, this shouldn't be a problem once you're comfortable enough while in the ring with another person and able to think..


Since you're 5' 2" @ 107 lbs and assuming that you're relatively young, fast hands is an inherit gift that you already have so now you're thinking of expanding your style or increasing your skills..


Well, if you don't have a trainer, it would be quite helpful to get one so that you can go through some various punching combinations and countering techniques..The watchful eye of a trainer will also help you learn more quickly, what is good and what is bad, rather than learning through trial and error while somebody is beating you down in the ring!


These are some of the elements of a good boxer. Quite naturally you can never be sure what your opponent might present so as a good or well-rounded boxer, it will be wise on your part to drill constantly so if and when you should get too tired or unable to relax (which is often the case), your punching and maneuvering will occur instinctively...


The mitts, heavy-bag and maybe even the "Crazy-Bag", are all good to pracitice your combinations.. Of course the "jab" is the most fundamental punch for a boxer.. It is the beginning and end of nearly every combination that you execute..It also considered the most important punch, both offensively and defensively to a fighter..Whether backing-up or advancing in a forward motion, the jab is one if not thee, most essential weapon in a boxer's arsenal.. Exempt from most fighters today so it is becoming a rare yet forever useful weapon in the sport of boxing but those who find it most effective, are the few who have come to believe in their abilitly to execute and effectively use the jab...Finding and knowing your range, is another important element of a good boxer..Equally important is the art of executing "feints". Feints will not only allow you to rest a little but it will also keep your opponent at bay and on edge with minimal effort on your part.


No matter who you are and how long you've been boxing, the jab can never be perfect and yet always improved..I hope I've passed on some useful advice?.. Good luck!




So basically you want to be a pressure fighter? Pressure fighters are always punching most of the time and have good defense. You have to be well conditioned to be a good pressure fighter since you are usually trying to close the distance between you and you opponent and getting shots in close. You are constantly punching most of the time and trying to avoid being hit. The best way to become a good pressure fighter is knowing how to cut off the ring and using good angles. Don't let your opponent work off from you. Cut him/her off. You do this by walking the opposite way he/she is walking. If your opponent is trying to circle right, you circle left and cut the distance. You want to trap him/her on the ropes or corner so you have an opportunity to punch. Make sure you give yourself room to punch as well. Being too close cuts your power away and gives you no room to punch. Make sure you are constantly moving your head and keeping your hands up at all times, obviously if they see you coming to them, they will try to jab at you and throw more punches. You have to have good defensive skills to be a pressure fighter.




Read body language. Anyone can throw a punch. A good boxer can read body language and learns when to hit,move,duck,block. Footwork is key also. It all comes together




put on weight...my mom weighs more than you.

What would be the outcome of a fight this year between Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye?

Would Haye have a chance?





I kind of doubt it, but it could be an interesting fight.





How do you think it would play out?



I think its about a 50/50 chance that either guy can win the fight. The thing that really bothers me is that Wladimir Klitschko made it an issue to have the fight in Germany. From what I understand David Haye and his camp really felt like his chances of winning a decision in Germany is impossible.





Klitschko is a Boxer his style is safety first excitement last. I seriously think P4P Wladimir has the best Jab in Boxing. IF David cant get past his Jab I don%26#039;t see how he can seriously win epically from the outside with a Taller fighter.





Haye%26#039;s best bet is too come out like a hound dog and be on Klitschko from start to finish. Wladimir is vulnerable in the early round because he needs too feel his opponent out. IF Haye comes out and try%26#039;s too bum rush him doesn%26#039;t give him time too do that. Wladimir also has a few issues with his Chinny Chin Chin I would look for Daivd too try and test that as well.





Wladimir Klitschko by Decision




Haye has a slight chance because he is fast and can swat and Wlad has a suspect chin. That said, his chance is like 5%. Wlad will probably KO him with a jab.




wladimir ko in 4 rounds with a massive right cross onto haye chin ;))




wladimir would take him out


%0D%0A

How good could zeljko mavrovic have been?

this was the man lennox lewis said was his toughest fight. zeljko got sick after the fight with lewis and had to retire from boxing. lennox lewis was his only loss, on points!!



Its really hard too tell because he fought the majority of his fights in Germany. The only fight I seen him in was the Lennox Lewis fight and he put up a hell of a battle I'll say that much.





The thing with European fighters is that Americans don't really get too see much of them over here. If they aren't fighting on HBO or fighting guys like Oscar Dela Hoya people just have limited exposure too their careers.

Whatever happened to derrick

known for his fights with wladimir klitschko an maurice harris



He got knocked out by me.

Why didn

i see he was scheduled to fight julio diaz and that diaz ended up fighting rolando reyes and got knocked out by reyes. WHAT happened to casamayor? did he pull out of this fight?



back injury




i heard on the radio it was due to injury....i forget what specific injury though.








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best boxing radio you're gonna find....in fact, if you find a better one,let me know

What is it called when boxers do the thing where they

Sorry for my ignorance, but is it so they won't get hit but can rest? Doesn't it make it confusing for the judges?



Clinch is the most common term for it. Sometimes it is also referred to as "tieing up". There are multiple reasons for it. Sometimes it's to rest, sometimes it to get a few seconds to recover from a damaging blow to the head. It can also be used as a defensive tactic to prevent a powerful but smaller opponent from landing a series of strong blows. Lastly, it's also something that just happens when you have 4 arms flailing away and there's not enough punching room.





I don't think it confuses the judges, but if there's a lot of it, it makes it harder for them to do their job because there's not enough fighting accomplished to pick a winner of any given round.




Clinch! One want rest after is hit much.

Wanna do roadwork but live in a dangerous neighborhood. what should i do?

I'm a 15 year old girl and I hope to one day become a pro-boxer. Lately I've been training and doing some roadwork, but now it's too dangerous for me to even run down the street. What should i do?



Always vary your route.





You'll be OK once or twice, because as a runner, you'll be gone before a bag guy figures out that you're there. But if you are predictable -- always running by at the same time -- then you are in danger.





Vary your running route considerably, and maybe even vary the time of day when you train.





Also, run when there are a lot of people around, and don't be afraid to wave at folks so they notice you and keep an eye out for your well-being.





Also, make sure you take a big knife with you. I'm serious. It is your responsibility and your duty to protect yourself. Unless you want to live in a society like Saudi Arabia where women are forced to be chaperoned by their male family members everywhere they go, then you have to protect yourself, and that means using a weapon.





Good Luck.




if it's that dangerous i wouldn't do it but if you have to-- take some "mace" with you. if you have to use it make sure they are downwind of you. i think they now make some with foam which would be easier to use. check a sporting goods store




I agree with Myk Cats. Find some other boxers to run with. If there are three or four of you, you're not likely to have a problem. Be sure to carry a cell phone.




You can always wake up early in the morning before anybody is out like 6am or 7am. If your in high School you can run on a treadmill or the school track.




do your roadwork with a buddy or other fighters. or go to your gym and run on a treadmill. if your school has a running track, then use that.




Run faster

Is there any heavy weight out there right now that you think can beat Klitchko?

Please be reasonable and just because you dislike Klitchko dont say someone else. Reasonabley is there a good chance that any heavy weight out there can beat any of the klitchkos?



I think David Haye can beat him, and I'm assuming you're talking about the younger Klitz. As big of a size advantage that Klitz may have, Haye has the speed and athletic advantage.





I think if Eddie Chambers really wanted it as if his life were on the line, I think he could beat Klitz easily. I think Chambers has that Buster Douglas kind of laziness in him. Good fighter, could be a lot better, doesn't seem to crave victory.




I'm going with Elmer on this one I think David Haye has a really good chance at beating Klitschko. One thing people have always questioned is his chin. All of David's fight have been KO's in his favor except the one fight he lost. I think if Klitschko comes out and isn't cautious he can be STRETCHED.




many...


1) Chris Arreola


2)David Haye








btw does anybody else tyhink valuev looks like a piece of s.h.i.t. mongoloid




Haye could beat him and I think he will. He is an athletic man who is a better boxer than either Kiltzchko bro. Wladimir has a soft chin and Haye does have good power.




Nope.





These guys are delusional. Haye has a bad chin for a Lt. heavyweight. Klitchkos will KILL him!


I wouldn't be surprised to see him get KO'd by a jab.




ruslan chagaev can probably beat wladimir klitschko. vitali would be much harder though

2012 olympic BOXING team?

will the 2012 us olympic boxing team be once again confined to a prison -like environment for a year like the 2008 team was????





i know that the trainer dude quit or resigned...and that the fact that the team sucked was because they were prisoners for a year!!





any boxing enthusiasts



Boxing is not a team sport these fighters have trained for years with the same trainer and to take them away from there trainers for a year is asking for trouble . I have no problem with the fighters going away for a month or two to train under the US coach but that should be about it. The US sucked at the last Olympics because someone who knows nothing about boxing had this great idea one fighter did not make weight are you kidding me.There was some thing else that happen but I can`t remember what it was thank God.




it could be that or its the fact that many of the Olympic USA boxers don't try that hard because they know they will be pro afterward cause they made it to the Olympics. they get over hyped sometimes and that gets to the athletes head.

Adrian Diaconu Tonight!?

Im excited to see this man fight tonight so i can see really if he is the real deal like KniteDe bare claims. But i doubt it will be a good fight. He is on the undercard of Holt Bradley on showtime. looks like Diaconu is fighting a cupcake 10-7-1 record and never heard of the guy. Prolly looking for some american exposure. Hopefully he knocks this guy out early and will prolly say he wants Chad Dawson next setting up a unification fight in October or so. Should be interesting but im not paying to see valero on PPV ne thoughts?



mate i was not even impressed by diaconu!





THE MAN COULD NOT FIND A FIGHT AND FINALLY SOMEONE WAS WILLING TO FACE HIM FOR THE PERSON ABOVE ME WHO ALWAYS TALKS WITHOUT KNOWING SHYT!~


Diaconu had not fight for 14 months and he needed a tune up!


He was out of rhythm 100% i got dissapointed!


He gets older and inactivity has hurt him badly!





I guess in a couple of years when diaconu will be 34 or 35 and totally inactive I HOPE UR GREAT BAD CHAD DAWSON LMAO THEN HE WILL GET SOME BALLS FIGHT HIM LOL





Jordan why u stress man???


soon or late Dawson will have to face him,so we gonna see who the best man is man;)





in words americans u beat Klitsckos valuev adamek calzghe bute and all of them





in words Normen was saying that estrada would ko Potevkin





THE POINT IS WHAT YALL DO IN ACTIONS AND IF I JUDGE FROM ACTIONS YALL AINT DO SHYT LOL




Hes fighting a guy that has a record of 10-7. In his last 6 fights alone hes 2-4. Now I have never seen Diaconu fight nor his Opponent but when you look at the guys he being matched with you have too wonder is this just a tomato can being used too pad a record.





I don%26#039;t understand if your looking to make a name for yourself what is the logic in fighting a guy that%26#039;s 10-7 ? ThIs is exactly what I%26#039;m talking about guys getting scrap belts and fighting journeymen as an easy way too keep them.


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Want to start boxing...good idea?

Well Im 15 years old 5 11- 6 foot 156 pounds. Athletic but from running. Big track/cross country fan. But I really want to start boxing. Mainly for the fitness and physique. Is this a good sport to achieve that? Is it fun?


I am willing to work hard. I always do. How much is it a month? What kinda gear do I need? Any other info that you guys can give me would be great.



Boxing is not an easy sport, I'll tell you that much. It takes a lot to become a successful boxer. Someone who boxes as just for fitness isn't pushed as hard as real fighters who enter in competitions. Boxing I have to admit is fun yet very demanding and challenging. You must be committed and devoted to your training at all times because your training is what will affect what you do in the ring when you are sparring or in competition. Prices a month vary on what gym you attend and how they set the prices out. Some gyms are expensive but those are the good gyms where real fighters train. Gear you can start out with is hand wraps, a good pair of training/boxing gloves, jump rope, head gear ( if you plan on sparring with friends ), mouth piece, groin protector, and boxing shoes if preferred.





Joining a boxing gym/club would be your best option if you really want to learn the sweet science.


Good luck and be safe. Boxing is a dangerous sport but it's not so dangerous if you do know how to box.




you can try to contact the golden gloves association.they are the largest amateur boxing organization in the country.

What

Can someone explain the main purpose of hitting the body in boxing? I've heard of a quote "Kill the body, and the head will die".



By punching in the ribs or using body blows you are taking away your opponents ability to breathe.Punches to the chest sides and stomach all take their toll on the lungs and the amount of oxygen they can sent to the rest of the body.I have actually seen a fight end in TKO as result of a body shot.The boxer dropped to the mat after a vicious hook to the ribs on the left side and could not catch his breath enough to get back up.




It's a larger target, easier to hit. In addition, most of your vital organs are in the trunk of the body. The solar plexus is recognized as a knock out target. By hitting there or other places on the torso, you can cause the target to not be able to take a good breath. Without the oxygen, the person is easily rendered unconscious.




because body shots hurt way more then head shots.you get blasted to the ribs and the air is just knocked from your body and you are unable to breathe.ive been stopped by bodyshots before and the purpose is like i mentioned above to take away their air and then when they cant breathe they lower their hands and then that opens up the opportunity for headshots




Because basically, if you wind your opponent, the fight is basically over, he wont be able to fight back (punch him in the stomach so he cant breathe properly, it isnt hard either, you dont need strong punches to do this)

Which guy threw the most illegal punches in boxing?

I was just wondering which professional boxer was the dirtiest and threw the most illegal punches/blows.



I think the most shameful display of illegal punches belongs Andrew "the Foul Pole" Golata, Andrew was landing combinations to Bowe's groin, with obvious intent to end any thoughts of Riddick ever fathering any little Bowes in the future. Andrew also is the only guy I know who tried to land a rabbit punch WHILE HIS TEETH were attached to his opponent's throat (Sampson Paou was Andrews victim). Tyson was't the only biter, but when the two met in Alburn Hills Michigan, Andrew got hit so hard the punch echoed over the crowd noise, and then quit on his stool the next round. As dirty fighters go, Golata was worse than even Tyson.




Mike Tyson:


but does biting count?

What time does Holt vs Bradley start?

eastern standard? thanks in advance.



10:45 eastern time